Should there continue to be a women's only section on nofap. Why or why not?

It's difficult because women are a bit different than men in that they tend to not feel they belong on a male majority forum and so I really feel like the women's section offers a welcoming beacon for them. My vote would be to keep it. It can act as both a place for women addicts as well as women supporters like myself.

At first I thought it was segregating women from men but now I see the value in it since women are an overwhelming minority here. I have to say this male dominated community has been VERY supportive to all women who come here which is wonderful to see!!

I know this isn't a discussion about religious groups but I completely disagree with grouping based on religion because some people may not go into certain groups and thus lose out on valuable info and tips. Tolerance has to be the key here. I do support the LGBT groups though, again because they are a minority and it is harder to connect...plus their struggles are a bit different.

 

As a young Christian male I disagree about LGBT and Christians having their own forums.

Too many LGBT unfortunately think that Christians aren't welcoming to them. I also know that LGBT are looking for more integration into society so having a separate forum just raises more stigma.

I do think that women should have their own forum though, it's just common decency. Just as youngsters have their own forum too, there are a lot of creepsters on the Web.

This is just a thought and please don't attack but just consider it as an opinion but perhaps if there were a forum about recovery from homosexuality. I know this is a very uncommon and even frowned-upon idea regarding homosexuality but you know society says that PMO is good for you and can't be reversed either. The Church has many testimonies of people of homosexual orientation that have grown out of it and become happily married. I even recall a dude on this forum noticing his decreased sexual interest in men and increased interest in women after a short while of no PMO.

 

Thanks for sharing your views in such a respectful way! It is controversial to talk about, and I think I remember reading the same post. While I don't subscribe to the idea of "fixing" someone's homosexuality, we still don't fully understand how our sexual preferences work. I guess we just need to make sure our intention here is to help everybody feel welcome and accepted. On a different level, since practising NoFap, any of the more perverse thoughts about women I've had have slowly faded and been replaced with more gentle/loving things.

But in terms of the women's forum, does it actually hurt having the option there? It could be wise to have a disclaimer or a sticky post saying that "if you feel more comfortable posting here, please do - however you're more than welcome to post in the age bracket areas".

 

I personally want it removed, gender segregations are really annoying for me and doesn't help with dysphoria at all and it gives the undertone that it's mostly the guys who have issues with PMO since women only have 1 forum. Also it's not really gender equal since there isn't any forum oriented for men. As far as I understand this site helps people recover from PMO, what does gender has to do with it, IMO it should be unisex. There was someone saying that women might feel underwhelmed however there is 1 fact that she forgot: It's the internet so you can be completely anonymous if you so wish. I did not see any gender segregation in facebook's, reddit or any other grand social platforms architecture per se so why here? I do not see women complaining about facebook not having a section reserved for them explicitly, there are community driven groups for that, at least I'd like for other solutions for this issue that do not involve segregating the community in any way.
I think we should look from all perspectives on gender segregation, not just womens.
Is gender segregation really that beneficial to the community as a whole? As far as I know one popular reason with quitting PMO is removing the alienation between men and women, will gender segregation help with that? Will it help with the community to see the individual and not just the gender? I also question whenever it's beneficial to publicity display ones gender. Shouldn't we read ones post for the sake of reading the post, not because of the OP's gender? I understand that people are curious about other genders but I don't think that this should be relevant in some sections of this site, maybe a section that's oriented for those who are curious about the opposite gender might improve things from on this perspective.
Also it raises the question why there aren't any LGBT or religious sections, the community is too small for further segregations so I say remove the womens forum, at least that will solve more issues than it will raise. Let there be community driven groups for that as seen in other social websites.
I support alex 100% with this decision. Hopefully they'll remove this soon.
another of the issues that some seem to encounter are triggers from the opposite gender, I think that this issue should be fixed in a different way than segregating the community(spoilers, hide others gender option).
Personally I'd like a discussion around how to fix the issues raised by removing the womens section.

 

What does an extra forum has to do with decency? You know that by having a women forum you are inviting the creepers, right? Because "all threads about PMO women only guaranteed" definitely does not sound inviting to a creepster.
Don't get the wrong idea tho, I don't personally dislike you, I dislike your opinion.

 

I think this is about solving a problem that is not there. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I personally like the womens section because this way they are easier to find. Usually their posts are more interesting than mens are. All I see is "I won't PMO ever again." next post: "I relapsed." It's not really motivating.

Also I dislike the idea of having even more groups like religion, lgbt or whatever. I don't think it would be beneficial for the overall goal of the forum, that is to quit PMO. What I do think would be a good idea is distinguish the threads and journals of successful fap- and femstronauts somehow. If you want to learn something, you have to find a teacher, who can teach you, right? You don't ask someone who doesn't know shit about the topic either. There is really no point in the sightless leading the blind.

 

That's a pretty harsh generalization.
Check out the age 25-29 section, there seems to be some talk about super humans. That sounds weird enough for me not to generalize IMO.

 

Well, we either generalize or talk about every single thread one by one. I feel I've been here long enough and I have read enough posts to generalize. It is up to everyone to prove me wrong by succeeding, so don't let me stop you.
BTW I've seen those posts, I commented on one of them but since I wasn't in favor of the idea, because I think they are misguided, the whole thread got deleted. So I thought, why bother?

 

I GOT AN IDEA!!!!
lets make people upvote the threads they think are good or intriguing then have a new way of showing the threads algorithm!
actually it's a bad idea, better kill it with fire, lots of people need support and while it might help to push good and intriguing stories people still need to be supported on an personal level, however you still talk about people pouring their feelings out as a bad thing, making resolutions only to fail them shortly after is human nature and it's so popular that there is something called new years resolutions. However I understand that on a personal level you might feel discouraged when so many fail around you, maybe tagging thread with different feels might help whenever you want to be encouraged by stories or you want to encourage....I like this idea, I'll make a post suggesting this. I'll call myself Stupid Einstein from now on.

 

I think it's just a matter of decency. What man should know about women's private issues?
You know it's easier to keep wolves away from the sheep when all the sheep are together in one flock. If the flock is dispersed that makes it much easier for the creepsters/wolves.

I don't frequent the women's journals because it's just so much better for them to be supported by other mature, caring women. I got my own problems I still need to face before I start giving females on the net advice about their sexuality.

 

You're basically telling me that the opposite gender is none of my business, OK, however that leads to alienation and the 2 opposing genders not being able to socialise since they do not understand each-other. I personally don't understand what's wrong with understanding the opposite gender, or at least trying to, why segregating them? What is the gain?
I can't say I like your anthology about wolves and sheep much and while I definitely agree with it IRL, I do not really see the point of it in the social life, especially in the virtual one. DO not forget that one reason LGBT became so popular is because prior to that there was no bridge between genders except love. That kinda sucks since you would only learn of the opposite gender by either being accepted or rejected and even to this day there is some gender segregation whenever we talk about specific subjects. Whenever you like it or not LGBT can also be used to close the gaps between the genders, besides sin.

 

I'm sorry buddy, where I'm from we are really cynic, it's something I do without realising, I promise I'll try....I hope I fail tho.

 

I did not M, I promise!!!!! I did not!
OK, I confess, maybe I am a little weird, but just a little, no one ever told me I am weird tho.
Maybe terribly weird or horribly weird but never just plain weird, so I'm clean.

 

@axy_david you are funny!! I think you make some good points actually. It reminds me of how men apparently never go to see movies or read books starring women or about women, but women will read and go to movies about men. It is interesting...although obviously way off topic here!

 

She said I'm funny!!!!! It's official guys! We gonna marry soon and have a daughter named Corsette!
On a more serious note tho I guarantee that some guys read books starring women, some because of curiosty, some for wisedom and some for other reasons....
Now let's stop being sexist and funny for a moment and remember that Harry Potter is a very popular book.
The reason so many guys read books about women is Twilight. The book was meh and the movie was fascination bad. On a more positive note I liked pride and prejudice along with the BBC episodic adaptation, the later movie was awkward at best.
I do disagree that some men don't watch tv shows about women , have you ever seen the ads lately? I can definitely argue that many shows are about the actual plot rather then then random female parts and that it has nothing to do with what the public wants! I definitely agree that it's interesting, and it's way off topic, therefore I will definitely post this, because it's way off topic!

 

But seriously, I believe that everyone is curious about the opposing sex and wants to understand it and that there are consequences for not doing so. The only problem as far as I see it is culture, we need to exterminate this culture of isolating men from women, while it may be seed as respectful for some I think it's much better to learn about each other together rather then learning about each-other from people who went on "the other side" as you will have a biased opinion about the opposing gender.

 

I don't know about you but I'd rather have the option to make the women's section invisible so I can't read it for the wrong reasons.

 

Well the option of hiding a persons gender might help!