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Should there continue to be a women's only section on nofap. Why or why not?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Knight Solaire, Jul 10, 2015.

Should there be a women's only section on the forums?

  1. Yes

    63.0%
  2. No

    13.0%
  3. Yes, but there should also be room for a LGBT section, Christian section etc.

    13.0%
  4. No, groups should be able to handle any subforum like these.

    23.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Knight Solaire

    Knight Solaire Fapstronaut

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    Recently, there has been a lot of talk of the women's section not being needed and Alexander might consider removing it with all the new upgrades coming in the future.

    The main arguments at the moment for keeping it are "it gives women a place to go to feel more comfortable with sharing and not worrying about triggering men" and "women have a place to immediately turn to for help"

    The main arguments against keeping it are "it segregates women further from other fapstronaunts and makes them feel left out. Most women just make journals in the age category anyway" and "if there is to be a women's only section, why not a LGBT section, Christian section, etc."

    I would just like to hear people's opinions on this subject so that we may come to a consensus on whether or not to have a women's only section.

    Please share your opinions!

    Please read this thread and the one linked in post #10 before voting.
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2015
  2. I feel that most women are more comfortable to post in that section as they rarely post in other sections of the forum.
    I think we need women's opinions here not mine though.
     
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  3. Knight Solaire

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    I've never actually read (I'm not sure) a post specifically from the women's subforum, but personally I do see a lot of women posting in the age area more.
     
  4. Knight Solaire

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    According to lots of people on here it segregates women from men which makes sense to me. People are starting to talk about why there isn't a LGBT and Christian section if they are going to segregate men and women. I think that groups (when they are added) will fill this gap.
     
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  5. SecretsRevealed

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    I say yes there should still be a women's section because I don't want to trigger any guys and I'm more comfortable posting on the women's section. But I think they should keep it the way it is because if they add a LGBT or Christian section, they're going to have to add other religions and other things later on because people associate with different things. Also it's simple keeping it men, women, and age groups. It gives you the freedom to choose whatever you like without going over broad with too many opitions.

    Also I feel like it would be harder to find the women if they took it away because there's more guys on this site than women.

    But guys do go onto the women's forums to spread support, which I'm very thankful for. It's nice to have support. So it goes either way, but I really do hope that they keep the women's section.
     
  6. morediscreet

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    Thanks for bringing this to my attention. :)
    I would like to have men's feedback sometimes, mostly bc there are significantly fewer women.... and men would probably like to have female feedback also.
    This site needs to be optimized for trigger avoidance though. The women's section seems a little segregated, but I was fearful of posting on male journals....
     
  7. M L

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    I feel both yes and no. Yes, because then men can avoid us if they wish, and we can find each other more easily.

    And no, because it makes us a target. People read for thrills. My journals had a ridiculous number of views before I deleted them. I've answered posts where people ask "should I read in the women's section?" as though it's a place they will find triggers.
     
  8. Knight Solaire

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    This thread was inspired by a discussion on this thread about adding more sub forums and groups.

    Please check it out if you are confused as to why this poll was created.
     
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  9. LookinUp

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    I personally would like a LGBT section in the forum, but I would also participate in the other sections as well. I don't want to isolate myself from the others or anything. @alexander mentioned adding groups back, so that may be a good option because there could be a group for women, sexual orientation, religions, etc.
     
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  10. Knight Solaire

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  11. Strugglesaurus

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    Well, for one, I believe that the women's forum may cause newbie women to feel unwelcome in other areas because it reinforces us as a minority in the fight against porn addiction. Such as, "Here is your section, the rest is for the men." Though of course not so rudely, just a simplified message that I think is expressed by the separation of women and men. :p I decided to post in an age group when I arrived because I wanted help from all genders and to get my story out there that women also struggle with this. I do think it's best to do what you're most comfortable with, though.

    I understand your point but when the groups function reappears, we would have groups for many things, such as Partners of Addicts, Women, LGBT, Christians, etc. This would alleviate any fears women may have to come in contact with one another on the forums to share their experiences and receive advice.

    I have seen this too. I have also seen questions like, "Why do you masturbate?" and, "Is Nofap even as beneficial for women as it is for men?" in the Women's section. When any one group of people is sectioned off from others, I can see them being questioned for their choices or beliefs, in women, religion, or LGBT sections.

    We are supposed to be a community, and I think we should be one whole community. Groups can be made to alleviate any concerns with contacting those of similar beliefs, sexuality, and gender. Hell, even now, anyone can post a thread looking for specific answers from certain people. This would be possible even if the Women's section were removed.
     
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  12. JethroTull

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    Why not let the women decide?
     
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  13. Knight Solaire

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    I agree ten fold.
     
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  14. SecretsRevealed

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    @Strugglesaurus I actually felt welcomed when I saw there was a women's section. When I read about community, it said there was less than 10% of women on here. I think it was even less than 5% and I felt discouraged because I thought it would be awkward trying to explain to men why I want to quit masturbating, even though some of them might get off on that type of thing. Also this site kind of seemed to be promoting help for men, so I kind of believed it was only for men. So when I actually checked out the forums before I came here, I actually felt comforted about the fact that women had a place to post their journals of their journey. And the fact that it says "WOMEN" should clue in to men that there might be triggers in that forum. So they should just stay away.

    I think the reason why they go to our forum to ask their questions about it is because there want to be enlighten, or they already know that they shouldn't be in that forum if it triggers them, so they're just seeing women confirming the thoughts they're already thinking.
     
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  15. Knight Solaire

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    I understand feeling like this place is mainly for men. I mean, it is mainly for men lol. At least right now. It is structured behind the idea that a lot more men seem to have a PMO addiction than women. Not to discredit any of the wonderful women on here.

    My opinion, being a man, is that this place was created for men obviously, but can be made more open and clear about the fact that PMO is a thing that everyone experiences by unifying the forums and letting people create their own colonies (groups) in order to fit their needs.

    I think it does not matter where you post your journal or thread. People should accept that some people won't agree or some people have problems. Women should not be scared and pushed into the women's forums just because some men on here are immature. That is something that needs to be dealt with by the moderators.

    I really dislike the fact that it is split and think it should be unified and made to show a more unisex place of community. I think it can not be a community if people are split up into different areas of the forums. Groups are there for people to form bonds with others of the same like. A whole forum dedicated to women is like caging off half the population of monkeys just because the other half isnt smart enough to associate with them.

    As you can tell, I would like to see everyone posting everywhere. Men can help women and women can help men. It is a mutual working community.
     
  16. Strugglesaurus

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    @SecretsRevealed I think you misunderstood me somewhat. :) I meant that women might feel unwelcome in other areas and not feel comfortable posting on men's journals or participating in discussions across other sub forums. I was actually pleasantly surprised to find there was a women's forum when I joined. It definitely made me feel less alone. Last year, however, there weren't as many women as there are now, so it was quite slow!

    I'm very glad that women who join have a place to journal their thoughts and see they aren't alone, I just try to promote an equal environment whenever I can. I would love to see more women posting in other sections, besides the ones I see the most like @Blondewife and @M L, and I think the specific section for women is a barrier in this regard.
     
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  17. LookinUp

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    @Strugglesaurus - I understand what you mean about how it could make women feel more welcome. Sometimes I wish there was a LGBT section. Not sure why they only cater to gender and age on here. I guess if they broke it down by sexuality too, they would have to consider other categories like religions. I'm interested in seeing what the "groups" are like. I understand that may be coming back.
     
  18. cryptifly

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    This is a weird topic for me and I don't know if I feel drawn in any direction. On one hand, I don't like the segregation of having a "woman's only" section. We're all in this together regardless of any attribute we may identify ourselves with, be it sex, gender, height, weight, weirdness, whatever... however, women have been treated as less than men for so long that maybe the women here would feel safer by having a women's only section. As far as the women's only section goes, maybe we should let the women of this forum decide if that's something they want for themselves instead of the rest of us deciding for them.

    I also think that having a religious section would be wonderful as well. I'm an atheist and would love to connect with more atheists on this forum. No offense to the wonderful people of religious mindsets but I find myself getting tired and frustrated when I read posts laced with religious ideology and dogma. I also find that I feel more alone when I read this kind of thing because I just don't see the world the way religious people do and want more connection with like-minded people. Maybe sections would help relieve that.
     
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