P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. mentorr

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    Yes, libido/sexual energy should return for everyone here, as long as we avoid overstimulation and keep working on ourselves.
     
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  2. Be Inspired

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    In my case, I feel that the sexual energy returned after approximately 6 months of no PMO. I used to have a bad symptom of "dead penis". I have not had any morning erections from 2018 until 2023. The morning erections started to come back after 6 months of NoFap. Also, morning erections happen more often when I lift weights. But I hate lifting weights lol.
     
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  3. humbleone

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    For me the biggest issue is the constant pain and tiredness, combined with incredible intense urges. It takes full surrender to not give into the urges when they come, so convincing, and they dont leave easily or quickly.

    Most normal people sexuality is effortless, they arent in this latent constant pain, and they dont have intense urges and compulsions, they simply dont experience this strata of life.

    Its almost like every single porn, one night stand, orgasm, is having to be now undone orgasm by orgasm lol
     
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    I understand all the positions. It seems almost absurd or impossible to imagine sex for pleasure whilst going through PAWS. The unimaginable pain it has caused, it would be insane to have any intention to go abck to sex as pleasure. Wouldnt even be possible to make it through PAWS.

    Theres also a difference between sex and lust. Sex as a loving expresision of conneciton and intimacy within a relationship without any lust behind it, could be fine and healthy. This type of relationship to sex just seems unimaginable to most of us, when we are raped by lust for so many years

    The difficulty is, once we are authentically healed, and all the underlying pain is truly healed, can sex be used in a non addictive or compulsive way? Thats why old timers or peoples out of PAWS would be incredibly useful data, but they all just dissapear into oblivion

    I agree with the consensus, at this point Id happily give up all sex and lust just to get respite from the pain and suffering. This past 5-6 years has been incomprehensible levels of suffering. I wouldnt have thought it possible. Literally feels like been in a form of hell and torture. In pain 24/7
     
  5. Thanks for the helpful info @mentorr !

    I noticed something recently, I'm more and more into Kick Boxing - I spend the last few days punching the boxing bag at the roof of my home.

    I don't know what this is... although I believe if there is any explanation to it, it has to do with the sexual libido that I don't have in the first place.
     
  6. mentorr

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    I would go with it and just see where it takes you.

    If you have an urge to kickbox, kickbox.
     
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  7. I'm a Brown Belt Kick Boxing Holder. I was about to get my hands on the black belt, I just couldn't do it 6 years ago, I was so busy with college back than.

    I wounder how would it be if I moved straight to it after PAWS Recovery, I bet it will be different with the Transmutation in Place.
     
  8. Gorkhaliwarrior

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    I remember having a high libido when I used to PMO. I used to lust over almost anyone. Now I avoid it at any cost. Sir is there anyone who has suffered from paws for many years and still is in any forum to tell you that he has got his libido back and has a normal married life?
     
  9. Gorkhaliwarrior

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    I came across this video. There are part 2 and 3 also. Plz give a feedback on what you think about this guys

     
  10. mentorr

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    Yes, NOFAPSuccess2018. He did 4 years of recovery. However he has since left.

    There is a small handful of guys with PAWS that exist outside of this forum. I don't think any are married (I could be wrong), I think only one has been able to recover and regain their sexual function. The rest are still in recovery but seem to be making good pace.
     
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  11. mentorr

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    Can you give the context of this video? Or a summary?
     
  12. Gorkhaliwarrior

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    This video is about gaining your libido back along with mental faculties. The first video is just 30 mins. Why not watch it? Plz tell me what you make of it after watching
     
  13. mentorr

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    It is a very informative video about understanding the performance of hormones in the body, however I cannot support testosterone replacement therapy as a method of recovery and would not recommend it to others.
     
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    Good explanation.
     
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  15. mentorr

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    @Gorkhaliwarrior do you feel that TRT is something you want to look into for healing? What's on your mind?
     
  16. Gorkhaliwarrior

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    There are a lot of positive reviews about it on social medias. The comment section of the video is filled with positive reviews. But never talks about PMO addiction. I would definitely want to recover naturally and "heal" my brain. But seeing the cases like yours and couple of others(regarding the time it takes) makes me rather hopeless and makes me think of an alternative. I know trt is not the answer but it definitely helps with the energy, mood, motivation and drive. I know the downsides of it. What do you recommend?
     
  17. Gorkhaliwarrior

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    Hey man. You seem to be an old member of this forum. What's your story?
     
  18. Steelflex

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    Even Experiment 1996 posted his 52 month report on the nofap reddit, he claims that he's very close to recovery, which gives my a lot hope, I'm happy for him.
     
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    Who is that one person? It'll be great if you can share a link or something. This type of content is really motivating.
     
  20. mentorr

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    I saw TRT in the video and know that it can carry all sorts of potential risks and side effects, but at the same time I know exactly how you feel. We are having to climb a pretty tall wall to recovery.

    Recovery does not need to take 5 years, I was working an extremely stressful job, I was not sleeping or eating correctly and basically burning myself out. 6 months into my reboot I actually got my libido back and felt fully healed. Unfortunately for me, PAWS is a bit deeper than just stopping PMO and I am trying work through that still. I think recovery can be much quicker if you couple abstinence with understanding any other issues you might have.
     
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