P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

So how much time should one wait after getting their libido back, to be completely sure that the benefits are here to stay and they have infact 100% recovered.

 

It is recommended to check your well-being from time to time after orgasm, only after you simply do not experience flatlines for a long time and paw symptoms without orgasm.
The body will tell you, even if you feel a drawdown after orgasm, you will be sure that you still need to wait.

 

• I have been in flatline for a few years due to constant pmo, I feel anhedonia, no appetite Can I come out through nofap

 

• • I would like to confess that I did not know that pmo is harmful due to my ignorance. I conducted pmo for 10 years from 13 to 24, but I entered flatline due to a pmo 5-6 years ago, but I did not know what flatline is, did I not care about it or did I conduct pmo with a reduced dick
  
  
• 1。I have been in flatline for a bout 5-6 years due to constant pmo, I feel sever anhedonia（can not feel happy from normal life)no libido depression, anxiety, loss of appetite ，i started nofap for a month without O ，Can I come out from flatline through nofap ？
• 2。I feel emotionally numb i have Shrunken dick I don't have any mw but can get hard and have sex with my girlfriend，what is this situation？
• 3。Can I recover if I have severe dopamine receptor desensitization or opioid receptor desensitization？

iam doing nofap and i will insist it for a year at least，i have a girlfriend but i dont want to have O with her by karaza，i am in hardmode i dont see porn for a year but relapsed，Somebody analyze what's going on with me ，

• I will listen carefully to everyone's opinions，I don't mean to bother you or annoy you but I'm living with feelings of insensitivity, anxiety, depression and it's scary and I really want you to help me

 

No orgasms till you feel you are recovered and married. Trying to check weather you are fine by orgasming before marriage is a bad idea for addicts specially. And the problem is not only porn it's orgasms as well. We must be disciplined in our marred life as well to lead a healthy life. Over orgasming is itself an addiction.

 

No orgasms before marriage! Have you got it all? God forbid.
Where did so many categorical assessments come from?

 

Okay have as many orgasms as you want before marriage or recovery. We are doing all this to again indulge in "pleasure" with anyone.

 

Everyone decides for himself why he makes a reboot . The name of this topic is paws, not "abstinence before marriage"

 

Like I said. Do whatever you want. You get out of paws after years of misery only to have meaningless sex with someone who does not legally belong to you as your wife. It's about dopamine sir. Orgasms cause dopamine release too. But no, life is about enjoying. We can just check if we are healed by having orgasms once in a while, move back to flatline. Then again check. Life is just about having orgasms. We recover to have orgasms again. Lol

 

Its such a shame that no old timers come back and comment on sexuality and sexual life post paws, like does it just go effortlessly back to normal, or are they forever worrying and moderating their sexuality

 

This type of thinking is very orthodox in my opinion. Not everyone is at a point in their lives where marriage is a near future possibility. Also, I don't think there's any harm in going out with other people before marriage and that includes being in a relationship and being intimate is a major part of that as well. If you're thinking that the only woman one should ever be with is their future wife, then that's utterly illogical because you can't get the relationship right in the very first try. You see people, then you date them, sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't and being intimate is a major part of that process. The goal here is not to orgasm as much as one can, but to be connected with someone on an intimate level, because s*xual intimacy plays a huge role in your relationship with your partner, in terms of bonding, closeness and connection. You can't sit at one place and waiting for the perfect girl to fall from heaven so that you can marry her and only then be intimate with her.

If you're personally at that point in life or if this is your personal goal then it's completely alright, each to it's own. But imposing this thought process on others and claiming that this is the 'only' right approach or mindset is nonsensical in my opinion.

 

Okay. You guys are right. All the best for your recovery.

 

You wrote: "you are recovering to have an orgasm again lol"

To bring the brain back to normal, you need to give up orgasms for a while.
The goal is not to give up an orgasm for the sake of giving up an orgasm.
And what does it mean that "by law does not belong to you as wife" is prohibited by law?

 

Maybe I am in the wrong place. This kind of thought process doesn't aid in healing for someone who is heavily addicted. Sorry man. No arguments with you.

 

that is not called flatline. Flatline means the symptoms that start to occur once u quit PMO totally. What I understand is u do small streaks and then relapse and same continues. Flatline will happen when u don't give ur brain those same dopamine hits as porn and masturbation (even orgasm) gives. It will be intense withdrawal symptoms. What u are experiencing now is side effects of excessive dopamine dysregulation. You still have not even started flatlining

 

• But I lost my libido five or six years ago and dick atrophied and lost his response to stimulation and couldn't get an erection without porn

 

Wait, a flatline is a symbol for symptoms, in particular, "no libido, dead penis."
I was in a flat line too, without even stopping the pmo. I know what you're talking about and what symptoms you're talking about.
There may be a flatline during the reception of pmos.
Because for me there were no special differences after the pmo was stopped, because I was constantly in a terrible flatline.

 

forget karaza baraza and other fancy jargon. U have to abstain from all sexual activity at least for 8 months -- no semen discharge a

it needs rest & resetting - for some months. Stop having sex or any activity that involves ur penis (except urination ofcourse). I guess you have fapped for long durations in ur early 20s and quite frequently.

 

The Nofap flatline is a period of complete or partial loss of pleasure or satisfaction from rewarding experiences caused by abstaining from self-touching and adult content.

The Nofap flatline occurs when your brain is recovering from no longer receiving the hypernormal stimulus amount of dopamine produced from PMO. A Nofap Flatline is a dopamine detox from PMO. A flatline can feel like an intense distance from happiness, motivation, confidence, and optimism. It feels like the only cure for it is PMO, which is always a lie. Experiencing a flatline is experiencing the withdrawals from hypernormal dopamine releases. No different than a withdrawal from drugs.

Going through the flatlines are the price to pay to getting back to a dopamine rewarding state.

Because of how powerful PMO is from a dopamine perspective, someone who is an addict isn’t sensitive enough to feel the small amounts of dopamine that comes from rewarding behavior, like making progress towards mastery. They don’t get to feel the small pleasures of life.
https://andreian.com/nofap-flatline/