Life is more pain than pleasure.

and you dont even know the half of it we are actually extremely fortunate in comparison to alot of the human population. many people in our shoes already slaughtered or in extreme conditions

 

I wish you strength and love.

I've read that the only cure for grief is to grieve.

Sometimes life is plain suffering. And we wish that death would be better.

But sometimes, maybe when you cut the incessant chattering clouds of self talk and maybe when you gaze at a flower, or trees, or the skies...you feel that life is such a gift, you've been invited to enjoy the silence of the mountain, magnificence of the trees, the chuckles and laughter of the ones you love, the soulful conversations....these feelings we experienced even though we absolutely have no idea as to why we are here in the first place and whatever will happen when you leave this place.

I'm here not of my own volition, I'm here because of a sperm that fused with an ovum. I grew up. I'm growing and after sometime I'll die. That death process will take place even if I do not wish so- beyond my volition.

Maybe I'm just a traveller in a dream. I suffer. I fap. I regret. I make another 400 days clean. I relapse. I laugh. I cry. I rejoice.

If the world is a dream space, I'd say it is pretty much wired to the suffering, selfishness, insanity.

I'm here watching and swimming in the cesspool of it all, working on things I can control and accepting the things I can't.

Maybe you've been cast in this play, just play along to the best of your spirit.

 

What if we did choose to exist? What if suffering is self-created? What if that suffering can also be a doorway to wisdom, understanding, and freedom?

 

If you go root of the pain then it never bothers you, suffering is psychological because of emotional connect. The gaps in the pain you call pleasure. These pleasures are the seeds of desires and the pains are the seeds of fears & drifting. As long as you run behind pleasures there is going to be pain also. If you want one you also have to welcome the other, both goes hand in hand.

Life is compassionate, courageous & intelligent but the identity through which you see life seems painful & suffering.

Not at all but because of too much suffering you may ready yourself to purge the obstacles. Wisdom & freedom is already operating but your fears create obstacles and that leads to suffering. The moment you clearly decide to surrender, the wisdom which is already operating flushes the obstacles, for that no suffering is required, just a decision away.

 

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Thanks Racco for your persistent reminders! I still get caught up in trying to “get” something.

 

To be tormented by my mind hour to hour is in itself a life sentence, being too self aware with guilt and sorrow plus embarrassment.

 

I'm not going to say that anyone who says they're suffering is unbearable is just blind to life, but I will say that I couldn't agree more with @Leanmaxxing that everyone’s personal suffering will always feel the worst to them.

Too often people with that mentality fail to recognize so many beautiful blessings right in front of them. They think their lives are.basically.meaningless, and so they don't see that if their loved ones were taken from them tomorrow, they would fantasize about the time in their life (right now) before they had that pain of losing a job, car, spouse, sibling, parent, friend, coworker, or Heaven forbid their own child.

I'm not saying you should be happy that you're in this tribulation, but it's only temporary. It WILL pass, you just have to find your way to the light. Ask for help if you need it. People are more than happy to.pray for you, talk with you, have lunch with you, or whatever.

 

The great thing about starting the long, difficult road of self improvement, is appreciating the progress you have made. Even if i still seem to be behind the rest of the world, everyone i know, and there is so so far still to go.
You know what helps me cope with the fact that I am a PMO addict? I used to be worse. I used to be a webcam addict, spending money i didnt have, phone chatlines video services strip clubs etc. I have conquered this. I am now 'merely' a porn addict. But i can conquer that too. Because i am making progress. And progress is always made incrementally, one small step at a time, and with extraordinary effort.
If you have hit rock bottom - great, there's only one way to go from here. What is one small way you can make tomorrow better than today? Can you dress a little smarter? Make your bed a little neater? Can you tackle one small task on your to-do list? Can you spend ten minutes less on your phone? Choose one and keep it tiny. Make it so small it is effortless. It would be ridiculous not to do it. Congratulations! You are not at rock bottom and you are making progress. You don't have to enjoy it, just get it done.

If none of this resonates at all, it might be time to get professional help. Most people leave it way too late and wish they had got help sooner.

 

I agree. I have chronic depression, but luckily my depression cycles every few days. I might feel like blowing my brains out for several days and then suddenly the depression is gone and I feel hopeful and can do stuff again. When that happens I am often scared by the way depression was distorting my perceptions and thinking. When depressed I think that everything truly is meaningless and hopeless, and I think that happiness is a delusional state. Of course when I am out of the depression I think the depression was a delusional state.

I assume that @Leanmaxxing is depressed. Hopefully that depression will leave him.

 

Yep. I was diagnosed with major depression disorder many years ago and literally nothing in life made me happy. I never looked forward to anything except getting back to sleep next. I wasn't happy spending time with my wife and kids, who were miserable because I was too. After some medication and therapy, I finally came back into my life of happiness and regret every second I spent in depression. (NOT that it was a choice, I still just hate that I was there.)

 

I'm not sure what to say that might help. Everybody's case is a little different, but in my experience brain chemistry is a bigger factor than the actual circumstances of of life usually. There are some rapid-acting antidepressants. Ketamine is one that is FDA-approved. Sorry you are feeling depressed and I hope you get feeling better somehow.

 

Honestly, probably the worst mistake I made in life was to quit my normal job and try to work at home. I went from drinking on Friday night to drinking all day long. And I went from a couple of hours of PMO per week to endless bloodshot hours of porn browsing almost every day. I had been riding my bicycle everyday to control the depression, but that fizzled too. It was a disaster for me. ... Obviously there are a lot of people who love working from home, so maybe you would be one of them. I don't know.

I agree with you in theory about the inevitable suffering in life. We might as well be happy if we can, because it feels better. Also being happy allows us to do more good for ourselves and others. It might be an ultimately futile effort, but we might as well try.

D3 with K2 has helped a little with depression. You might try that. It will also help your immune system.

I also use a medicinal plant sometimes, but it is kind of toxic. Also, the D3 has seemed to make me need it less.

I know there are no silver bullets, and everybody is different. Probably none of that helps, but whatever.

 

Yeah, I'd day that for an addict to try for a work-from-home job is one of the worst mistakes as far as recovery goes. I would strongly recommend against it unless someone who is FAR along in their recovery and has like, a year or more of sobriety AND has a really good offer. Otherwise I'd say that, at least for probably most of us addicts, it's us fooling ourselves thinking that we could handle it and not lose our sobriety, especially if we're alone when working from home.

 

its amazing how much of our lives are preordained bullshit . always living for someone else's ideals. any wonder we gain weight. were imprisoned by this system and ultimately bored and most people dont even know who they are or what there doing

so life is suffering because its not by choice .

 

I'm gonna go ahead and respectfully disagree with this post, at least to an extent. To say that our lives are preordained is absolutely opinionated. Living for someone else's ideals is a choice. I suppose there may be a few exceptions to this, but for the most part, I'd say that's absolutely a choice. I will absolutely agree that many people's lives consist of a lot of suffering. I highly doubt many people would argue with that, but I think that for those who aren't held hostage or in some similar prisoner/hostage type situation, there are lots of opportunities for people to try to make a better life for themselves and their families. Its never quick or easy, but I feel like opportunities are usually there just the same.

 

I agree that life is full of suffering, but you also have some good sprinkled in. The only hope we have in this life is Jesus Christ, everything is meaningless without him. I recommend you read the book of Ecclesiastes from the Bible, it shows just how meaningless our existence is apart from God.