Are women more on-guard now?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by cleaningupmyact, Apr 26, 2024.

  1. something I've noticed, especially in the past few years, is women are way more walled-up and on guard. Obviously not talking about drunk at the club or whatever, just in regular daily life. Like even friendly conversation in super casual scenarios is given this really weird vibe now...does anyone know what I'm talking about?

    I wonder if it's b/c they know men everyone are consuming a shitload of PMO and most cant even look at them above the neck anymore.
     
  2. onceaking

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    Some women think porn is overrated, and that most men don't watch it. If they're worried about anything, it's crime, not porn.

    Anyway, I think it depends on where you live and the personality of the woman. I expect in cities, women are less willing to talk than women in small towns and villages, since there's more crime in cities. Also, if a woman is introverted, she wouldn't want to talk to anyone, including other women. Some people just hate small talk.

    Another thing is in this forum we're from different countries, so we're in different cultures. In my country, most people don't go up to someone and talk to them. People in my country tend to be quite private, and it's considered an invasion of privacy to talk to someone you don't know.
     
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  3. onceaking

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    You find this interview helpful. His book is on my to-read list.

     
  4. Biophage

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    half of this is just cultural sensationalism with the news/criminal minds/etc. Crime declined every year from 1990 to ~2016, but polls found that people thought it was *increasing* every year. Meanwhile people eat all kinds of sugar, oil, meat, etc., which is 100x more likely to kill you than being kidnapped/murdered.
     
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  5. LostSon41

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    It’s crazy what the internet has done.
     
  6. LongSault

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    I wish it were that convenient, but I think the explanation is a lot simpler than that. I think that most of these women simply don't find the men around them attractive, and their walled off attitude is an attempt to signal their complete lack of interest. It's fine by me though; while I don't pursue relationships anymore, it helps to know ahead of time who isn't interested. Why waste my time with people who are just going to stonewall me?
     
  7. nomo

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    Sorry to say, but if you think women are more on guard, it's you. They are not more on guard, but if you are giving them an uncomfortable vibe they will be on guard. Maybe change your approach, smile more, be casual, I really don't know why they are on guard with you, but it's not a trend and it's something you can easily fix.
    Good luck.
     
  8. I think this post and onceakings is correct. and it's not just women, it's men too. There's a lot of fear mongering here in the US and rates of violence against women I think are getting worse in recent years. PMO addiction plays a significant factor in that - as much as addicts and the industry likes to deny it. P has normalized acts of aggression and harm towards women to a sickening degree. and I think it's making them more afraid generally. It makes me sad.

    To clarify, I'm not talking at all about my 1:1 interactions with women. I see it across the board generally. It's a cultural shift, IMHO.
     
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  9. Bingles

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    Wdym? I don't understand why guys online act as if talking to girls is any different to talking to guys. There isn't a process to it, just be yourself. And if yourself isn't good enough, be better. Simple as. Most of my friends growing up were female. Work out, be nice, get money. That's not everything of course but it's a big part of it. Women don't just collectively change, there are literally billions of them. It's you.
     
  10. It's absolutely different talking to a woman you're attracted to than some random man.
     
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  11. Bingles

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    In what way? I get that women have different interests, but besides that, not much really seperates men from women in terms of conversation imo.
     
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  12. I don't want to have to state the obvious here Bingles because the jannies will drone strike me for it, but do you think there's maybe a reason that you specifically don't get what I'm saying?

    Also, more goes into interacting with people than just the conversation itself. Even if you speak the exact same words to a woman you're attracted to as a male friend, everything else will likely be totally different, even if you're not consciously aware of it.
     
  13. Bingles

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    Idk what you mean. Women don't just collectively change as a whole every 10 years. Either it's guys being too much on an insecure sperg to talk to a woman or I am just retarded and have no filtered social skills. Probably both.
     
  14. Ghost️

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    Plot twist: The majority of women have always been on guard, but you’ve just now noticed it.
     
  15. The other day you admitted you're gay. You can't relate to feeling nervous around a woman you're attracted to, because you're not attracted to any woman. For men who like women, talking to a hot one can be a stressful experience that heavily influences what they say, how they act, their entire attitude. This is just a fact of life. You can absolutely learn to overcome this through practice but any (straight) man who says they have never gotten nervous around an attractive woman is blatantly lying. It doesn't matter whether you're Giga Chad or Quasimodo, men are biologically wired to treat women differently than men even if they don't realise it. Even when they actively make an effort not to do that.

    Idk where you got the ten years thing from. That's not a thing I ever brought up.
     
  16. Bingles

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    Oh, that makes sense. :p

    Also I was referring to OP saying that women are more stand-offish. I don't get how all 4 billion women can just collectively change.
     
  17. USER_ERROR

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  18. Glad someone said it. Social media has conditioned many women to view themselves as being infallible goddesses while also conditioning men to view themselves as losers because they can't reach that ridiculous standard. It's a deliberate attempt to make men and women hate each other and unfortunately it's working.
     
  19. Bingles

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    Self-diagnose? It's not a disease bruv, I just like guys. Gay means a man who is sexually attracted to men; in the same respect a straight man is attracted to women. That's it. Nothing else to it. You can be an effeminate antifa current-thing-supporting flamer or a manly hairy conservative football player and be gay because sexuality isn't a personality trait. I barely even think about it. It's not a trend to love someone the same sex as you. I'm not even on social media. I spent four years trying to figure out my sexuality, and this is how I feel. I like muscles, body hair, beards, you get the idea. Not really a conscious choice lol. I didn't wake up one day and decide "I think I'm going to be gay".
     
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  20. Ghost️

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