Is it normal for withdrawals and brain rewiring to cause OCD symptoms?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Mr. Kruger, Nov 13, 2023.

  1. Mr. Kruger

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    I have been rebooting for 4.5 years. Prior to embarking on this journey, I had been severely addicted to PMO for pretty close to 20 years. I first got addicted when I was around 12 years old, and by the time I was 14, I was engaging in multiple edging sessions daily. I'm 36 years old now.

    As you can imagine, rebooting has been a tremendously arduous process for me due to the fact that I got addicted during adolescence when my brain was undergoing crucial stages of brain development. This addiction is wired so deeply into my brain because my brain was so malleable and impressionable at the time. Rebooting has been a constant uphill battle, but I'm finally starting to notice some major improvements now.

    Lately, I have been noticing a lot of very intense symptoms that are a combination of physical, physiological, and psychological in nature, and I attribute this to my brain going through a very rigorous phase of rewiring. The reason that I jump to this conclusion is because I have experienced very similar periods of these symptoms that will last for several weeks—or sometimes even months—prior to a major breakthrough in my recovery.

    But this time, I'm noticing one disconcerting psychological symptom that I have never experienced before: OCD and intrusive thoughts. I find myself obsessing over things that I never even used to care about. It's like my brain is deliberately trying to find things for me to worry about and obsess over. If I resolve one intrusive thought, another one will soon come along to fill the void. And what makes this weird is that I have never suffered from OCD before at any point in my life.

    Has anyone else here experienced this as either a withdrawal symptom or a side effect of brain rewiring? I know that it might seem weird to make a thread about this, but it's something I've been really concerned about lately, and I've never seen anybody else mention this particular issue before.

    Any insightful replies would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. Very relatable. Due to brain going through so many changes, it could cause so many confusions, bad thoughts, fears....
     
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  3. Gota

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    Can't say much about OCD, but from my own experience PMO (especially edging) and withdrawals from it has tremendous effect on psychic.

    I abstained from PMO 6 years ago, no sex and voluntary orgasms (except few wet dreams) all these years. 6 months after rebooting started to get anxiety attacks with severe somatic symptoms. Still get them. In summer watched some porn after very very long time, the result was depression and feeling very bad physically. About month later got anxiety attacks again with extreme weakness and fatigue. Can't recover since early September and don't see any improvement yet. Everytime I have stressful periods I experience series of vivid sexual dreams, erections, sometimes even semen leakage (when most of the time my libido is non-existant), it seems that my brain desperately seeks for some sexual relief, because this is how it was trained for years with PMO and edging being the primary coping and relief mechanism.

    So my point is that for many years PMO was the main coping mechanism and when you take it away psychological and somatic symptomps starts to develope. They can be very different from person to person, because each person is unique. You might get OCD, I get anxiety attacks, but I believe abstaining affects our psychic a lot.
     
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  4. Fairlane

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    Eu passo por isso no meu cérebro, você mencionou que uma preocupação aparece do nada no cérebro e outra aparece para preencher o vazio. Isso acontece muito comigo, às vezes me preocupo com meu futuro e depois tento preenchê-lo com outra coisa
    I go through this in my brain, you mentioned that a worry appears out of nowhere in the brain and another appears to fill the void.This happens to me a lot, sometimes I worry about my future and then try to fill it with something else
     
  5. TheRaven8386

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    YES YES DEAR SWEET GOD YES......
     
  6. TheRaven8386

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    Rebooting is bar none, no competition the hardest thing I have ever gone through in my entire life. I've spent nights crying uncontrollably believing i was doomed to go to hell no mattter what I did, then I would be afraid of dying then I would be afraid that I'm something I'm not and everyone can hate me. Intrusive thoughts are top tier psychological toture and it's worse for me because I already had Asperger's and OCD.
     
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  7. Red Moon

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    Also been rebooting for 4.5 years, now . And yes, i notice OCD and intrusive thoughts to some degree. Are you in the " Flatline " ? Do you have genital numbness ?

    Cheers.
     
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  8. Mr. Kruger

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    I'm not currently in a flatline, and I'm not currently experiencing genital numbness either. My flatlines were much more frequent during my first few years of rebooting, but the frequency and duration of the flatlines has subsided quite a bit. When I experience a flatline now, it usually lasts for a few days and rarely lasts for more than a week. According to other people who have successfully rebooted, the frequency and duration of the flatlines gradually subsiding over time until ceasing entirely is the most common pattern of recovery.

    I'm almost certain that I'm just undergoing a very intense phase of rewiring at the moment, and that's why I'm experiencing so many extreme symptoms.
     
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  9. Red Moon

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    In a constant Flatline for 51 months in my case. It is scary.
     
  10. Mr. Kruger

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    How severe was your addiction before you quit?
     
  11. fortissimoBlues

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    Can you rule out food? I am more a severe case of having a slow motility (last doctor even suggested I should consider removing my whole colon). I do know such episodes and even when the food doesn't trigger any digestive stress I can tell that when I do eat clean and natural and take as few supplements as possible, I rarely experience these episodes anymore.
     
  12. Red Moon

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    Before or during puberty i was already watching porn, for 20 years, give or take. Long reboot in my case. Me and others have post acute withdrawal syndrome from porn.
     
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  13. Mr. Kruger

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    I have never had any issues with food sensitivity or allergies. I'm 100% certain that it isn't that.
     
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    Your timeline is very similar to mine. I got addicted during adolescence and was addicted for pretty close to 20 years. It's interesting that we have both been rebooting for the same amount of time too.
     
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    Yes, it's interesting. That is why i was curious about your case.

    This is my situation with more details, i posted this in May this year :

    https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/nofap-48-months-paws.348559/
     
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    I just read through the post you linked me and immediately related to so much of it. I am going to reply in that thread at some point when I'm not as tired as I am at the moment.

    "Obsessive-compulsive behaviour" is the fifth item on the list of symptoms on the Wikipedia entry for PAWS, so I guess that kind of answers my initial question. It must be somewhat of a frequent occurrence for other people if it's listed as a symptom.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-acute-withdrawal_syndrome
     
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