Love

Welcome. Here, we fight this fight together.

I have learned in my own struggle that all that is worthy in life, all that is real and all that is worth fighting for is the real, natural love. I think you are at that point too.

Since this is a fight, and I know you recognize that, we need to prepare ourselves with that mindset. We need to understand our opponent, devise suitable tactics and stratagems and then proceed in faith. Our enemy (PMO) is real as it has caused us real pain. But we and our love for this life is as much real. Start with seeing why and where you relapse. Fill in the gaps. Occupy yourself with productive pursuits and then take one day at a time.

You can and will do it. We are all here, fighting the same demon. Good luck and best wishes. Peace.

Lost Soul jesusthatfreak in honor of Operation Fallen Soul

 

If this thought crossed through your mind then I am able to see light inside you. Its not late my friend. Believe in yourself and fight. At last it will be worth.

 

Nope. It doesn't make any sense, hence no realization has surfaced on my part. Have a good day, sir!

 

I think that people sign up for groups and broadcast them in their signature for a sense of belonging. It would be analogous to gang members wearing their "colors." I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with this, but it could potentially be problematic. However, it doesn't have to be.

As you have stated, the banner does bring their motives into question...which does slightly cheapen the beauty in what they say. "Are they saying these things to help me, or just to impress their group and get an award?" However, these motives need not be mutually exclusive. They can both sincerely want to help others and sincerely want to impress their group at the same time. Like getting paid to do a job you love. Just because you get paid does not mean you don't love your job.

I don't feel they are "fake" responses. They may be forced, but not fake. I think these members mean what they say in their responses. They are sincere. They just want to belong to something bigger, to feel a part of it. They not only want to be a part of the NoFap family, they want to be a part of the Operation Fallen Soul family, as well. I personally don't have a problem with it. I mean, at first I was a little taken aback, as you were. But then I thought about it and got over it. They are a good gang

I wish all gangs could use their membership for such positive and noble purposes. The consequent healing would have a significant impact in a very broken world.

Peace out, man. Don't let it drive you nuts. It's not worth it

 

@Gaston You got spunk. I like you. Strong personalities are always fun

@bizket1 We all need and want love. I'm right there with you, my friend. And overcoming alcoholism just shows how much control you can exude over yourself . You got this, man! One step at a time, just like in AA. And we're here for you along the way. Stay strong.

 

Hey HitB, thanks for writing about this. It is true that messages like what I posted are driven by a reward system in a group. However, you could think of this reward system as a mass campaign to support everyone, everywhere en masse. The same mindset is taken up and applied by all great campaigns all around the world. We as humans need to feel rewarded, be it intrinsic or extrinsic, after our actions. It just fuels the motivation and pushes us to the next level if there is an extrinsic motivator (such as a particular ranking system etc.). It is not to say that we would be immoral without these systems, but it just gives us structure to work with. Because, I too, am a struggling addict of PMO and am no expert on this matter. So, we all need a little push here and there. Keep up the good fight and keep pushing others to be their best. Thanks a lot! Peace.

 

@jesusthatfreak I understand. I think it is a very noble cause and I support it.
That being said, I think the banner brings into question whether what you do is for intrinsic rewards (commendable) or extrinsic rewards (less so). I understand why you do it, and it doesn't bother me. However, I do think that Gaston brings up--and exemplifies--an decent point. That is: Do you care about the individual you are trying to help, or do you care about your status in a group?
Some people will see what you are doing as shallow and superficial because you have the banner.
I know that this is not true.
You know that this is not true.
But others may question whether this is true or not.
So you may receive some blowback. ...or you may not... depends on the person, I guess. Just a heads up.
You're a good man, Charlie Brown. Keep up the good work.

@bizket1 I apologize for the off topic post. I truly am sorry. This will be my last one, I promise. I commend you for your current progress in your battle against addiction. Giving up alcohol is no easy feat. Giving up PMO is no easy feat. But you're a CHAMP. Exemplified by your ability to overcome alcohol addiction. You're a fighter. And that is a great asset in your battle against PMO.
And you are not alone in this. If you ever need support, just reach out for it. You can create a new thread or message someone you trust. You can message me if you'd like. You are never alone.

 

@bizket1 Apologies, for raiding this thread like this. Please know that this community is here for you and you can always count on us for support. Your resolve to beat PMO is dependent on your will and it seems like you already know what to do as giving up alcohol is no ordinary feat.

Again, as I said, you can and will do this. Sending best wishes, prayers and more your way. Keep up the good fight. Peace.

 

You guys totally robbed @bizket1 of his journal. Not cool. Take your disagreement elsewhere and respond to your brother who is stuggling. @bizket1 - i totally relate to your struggle. A friend of mine who was addicted to meth told me that his PMO was harder to deal with than meth. He did get sober from both however so I know it's possible. Keep at it brother.

 

You can start to feel the love right now, all around you. I listened to the song "where is the love" not so long ago and normally it would make me a little sad. The thought that there was less love in the world had something to do with it.

I realised, that love is inside of me, in my heart there is love. I am the one who decides to love something or not. Love is inside of me, it's inside of you and inside everyone that reads this. Our job is to learn to express that love, or unlearn to keep from expressing it. It was such an intense realisation that I cried, (I DON'T DO SUCH THINGS) it was the first time I cried from happiness.

I love this community and I love your goal(s) and persuit, don't make the mistake of thinking it isn't there yet.

I wish you all the best, and yes I too operate in honor of a mission, a group. I believe that my genuine help towards others will benefit me as it benefits them. You might try this too.

I will give a quick example of one of the benefits from helping/encouraging others. When you are overtaken by an urge you'll be the one who has trained to motivate someone in this situation. Your chances of surviving must increase, atleast that's my reasoning. The idea of being able to inspire someone, help someone change their lives for the better also frees me. Think about it, how 1 word or guinely sentence can chance the course of someone's life.

Best of love,
Commoner Cleric Buzzlightyear in Honor of Operation F.S.

 

This is your motivation! Go fucking for it!

No need to say more here!

 

@bizket1 Your avatar makes me want spread rainbows, it's really nice. Put's a smile on my face instantly

 

You've got what it takes. Never forget that.

 

That's awesome! Keep up the good work!