Hi, I'm a long-time sex addict with a seemingly awful and hopeless case. I've tried everything imaginable. My latest scheme was to hike the entire Appalachian Trail as a way of beating my addiction. I made it 100 days on trail without PMO (which was 5 times longer than i had ever gone before in my life). But then I started falling apart. I had a couple 30 day stretches, followed by a couple 20 day stretches, followed by a complete and absolute collapse into everything I had come out there to get away from. Now I'm finally back home again after 9 months in the woods (yea, I'm really that beat up and old). And my depression is immeasurable. I don't have any tricks left in my hat at this point. I've done the therapists, group sessions, accountability partners, 12 step fellowships, men's groups, etc. And (now) I've even gone on a 9 month walkabout in the wilderness. And I'm worse at this point than I've ever been before. I saw a thread today (on another forum) about the Sinclair Method for treating alcohol addiction. Apparently the idea is that you continue the addictive behavior while taking a prescription drug (Naltrexone) that blocks your dopamine receptors. And over time, you train your brain to stop associating the behavior with intense pleasure until you finally have a normal relationship with it. Apparently its ridiculously effective in treating Alcoholism (78% success rate). And I've managed to dig up a few studies showing that researchers have also had success treating compulsive sexual behavior with the method. Does anybody have any experience with this? Or can anybody recommend any good and detailed resources on the actual protocol that's used? At this point I'm just throwing spaghetti on the wall and hoping something will stick. Thanks!
first thing we need to realise is that, this whole complex mechanism of human brain is a gift from god. So we can't do whatever we want, like blocking the receptors and all. I will not support that. Now, i really understand you bro. I know, how you feel now. I am also a sex addict since birth. I sometimes think, as a child i had done no harm to anyone, so why i had this curse on me. I still wonder how a child know about lust and all. Anyway my life get completely destroyed. I am 25 now and i had never lived a single day with happiness. Everyday i am living a cursed life. Now, you had gone to woods for 9 months and still fail, do you know why.? Because that 9 months, (i assume) you are thinking about avoiding relapses and don't enjoy the hiking or you didn't put the mind on hiking. Consider this a relative come to your house and you take a 10 day vacation to avoid this relative . But during that 10 days your mind will be filled with the question. " did that relative left" ?, what's that relative doing now?,like this many thoughts will disturb us. So that's it , so now don't block the receptors instead go for a cross country trip and try to know various people.various places etc. Hitchhike on some trucks and it will be a great experience ( whichever country you are, unless its N korea). Relapse happen because we have some unaddressed problem deep inside of us. I had seen a sexual thing in real during my childhood and that give me sex addiction. Plus i had 2 traumas in life. And the last trauma give me bbc porn addiction and cuckold mindset. So you have to find that unaddressed problem of yours, which you get in your childhood. We can't live like this forever.
it sounds like you are trying to run away from it or find an external key to solve this thing. the thing is, this is all internal. you just gotta quit and sit there and take the pain. its going to suck. a lot. but you will make it
I agree with @fisherman9009 it's something we have to sit with and absorb, let the waves of the lower mind wash over us and we just have to take it and let it die down, don't react, just notice it's with you in the moment and push on or take a moment and stop everything till it goes away. You might benefit from taking a spiritual direction.
do you live alone, when i lived alone my alcoholism was out of control,show up to work all week hung over with 2-3 hours rest, mix alcohol with prescrition pain killers, i lived alone at the time. My grandma talked me into living with her, she had a rule, no alcohol in the home, and she loves me a lot, thus she constantly asked what was i out doing, where am I headed. I eventually quit alcohol. On the side note, I still have my sex addiction, its seems the longer i abstain from pmo , the urge for s** is on my mind all day, thank fully i dont dream about it. I always thought girls always looked at me in public cause of my appearance, so i wear baggy hoody over my head, dark sun glasses an an bandanna for my mask mandate .Even so doing so females still look at me an crowd me.Drives me nuts, would you like to join my thread, you can leave posts about your steps on conquering alcohol an such, ive made it strict, no pmo no intercourse , https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/the-sith-order-open.325388/#post-3249652 im a recovered alcolohic, leave as many alcohol related posts as you want, i want to see you get better brother https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/the-sith-order-open.325388/#post-3249652
Hey brother, I am trying the Sinclair Method at the moment. Actually I've been doing it for about over a year. I am still not at extinction, but I found porn addiction is probably more tricky than alcohol addiction to treat with TSM just because it's more available. At this point I would say that I am not addicted to pornography anymore, in its most common form - streaming videos on tube sites and any other sites. But I am still not completely cured from gay/trans fetishes, gay fantasies. Even though I am 100% straight, I could swear my life on that, but my brain got pretty addicted to imagining myself as a gay. And I mean specifically imagining myself as a girl... I suppose some of you can relate. I am still working on that, session by session, I feel like it's getting better but still not completely there. But other than that, I don't watch porn anymore, and I don't even want to watch it anymore. Let me know if anyone of you has tried the TSM for porn. It will be super interesting to share insights and such. I am thinking to start a group for TSM-ers. Let me know if anyone's interested
This is counter to my experience with my own afflictions. I am so much better off in terms of health and productiveness when I live alone. Everyone is unique!
You should be careful about that. They released a pharamaceutical drug years ago that did sort of the same thing in that it blunted the reward system. But it also made a lot of people using it suicidal. Be careful what you wish for.
I have successfully used naltrexone to curve my alcohol addiction to the point where I rarely find it difficult to not drink. Not total extinction but better than I was by far. I will add that naltrexone made me feel like shit for a few days after. I found it hard to be happy and felt like I wasn’t all there following a naltrexone session. It messes up your brain chemistry to feel real pleasure for a while after and sometimes I feel like it still has had a lasting damaging affect to my dopamine receptors. Although it worked it came at a price. Getting sober through other means like AA would of probably been better but since I was not committed to giving up alcohol for good, The Sinclair Method seemed like a great option. In hindsight, I wouldn’t have fucked with my brain receptors with drugs.
