solution for one of disadvantages of semen retention

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by TideHunter, Aug 21, 2022.

  1. TideHunter

    TideHunter Fapstronaut

    Hi everyone

    I know there is tons of advantages in the absence of PMO, that's why I'm here, that's why I wanna quit this addiction.

    I had a conversation with one of my best friends about semen retention, he is smart person and he showed me some disadvantages of this journey, I thought about them and I realized that he were right. My longest streak is about 4.5 months, I have reached +100 days of no PMO in my life twice, and in each time I felt love in a wrong girl, Trust me I didn't want to sleep with them, I just wanted to go out and spend time with them and get married, I think it's one of biggest disadvantages of semen retention journey, you'll fell in love with someone early and it's like you are blind to her evils and you can just see the good of her.

    My solution to this thing is getting out of PMO journey when you fell in love to somebody to get better decisions, but I think that's not a good idea, maybe there is better way, what do you think?
     
  2. Conqueror_J47

    Conqueror_J47 Fapstronaut

    You are right. I guess it's the hormones..
    But definitely not enough reason to abandon your goal of being free from poxn and mustubashin.
     
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  3. TideHunter

    TideHunter Fapstronaut

    Yes of course, it's not a reason to abandon PMO, but I think when you felt in love (just when you felt in love, not always) it is worth to abandon it, getting in relationship with wrong person is worse than abandoning PMO.
    I experienced this twice, absence of PMO journey is like closing a dam against desires, but when you destroy this dam, it's really hard to rebuild it and that's why I'm looking for a better solution.
     
  4. MasturTainer

    MasturTainer Fapstronaut

    If you dont mind me saying so, perhaps SR just magnifies another problem you have that leads you to picking the wrong girl. In other words you pick the wrong girl for some other reason.
     
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  5. TideHunter

    TideHunter Fapstronaut

    Yes, maybe. My main problem is felling in love with a wrong girl, But there is still another problem, I think SR makes you get in love quickly, In most YouTube videos, you will see that they say that the opposite gender is more attracted to you, but even if this is true, you will be more attracted to them.

    When I'm not in PMO journey, girls for me are like boys, there isn't any attraction, but in PMO journey girls become more attractive, not for sleeping with them but for hanging out and spending time. And thanks to your hormones, you will soon fall in love with nature's tricks.

    You know what I'm talking about, I like indifference to the opposite gender, but in PMO journey I'll lose this.

    Maybe because I am used to this lifestyle, I mistakenly think that this feeling of love (I mean that you fell in love early) is wrong and should not exist, according to the almanack of Naval Ravikant: "When everyone is sick, we no longer consider it a disease."
     
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  6. Kn0wbie

    Kn0wbie Fapstronaut

    On the plus side bud - for me I love my wife so much more than I did a few months ago... It's like being a teenager again and I love it! I just want her so badly... And to be really clear I dont want to "fuck" her anymore... I want to "make love" to her instead! And I say that differently deliberately as I just want to be at one with her in an intimate way and there is nothing closer than holding her and bing inside her... and now I crave a karezza relationship and being PMO free forever!
     
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  7. TideHunter

    TideHunter Fapstronaut

    I agree with you, although I don't know what karezza is exactly, I searched in internet and I got some points.
    Do you agree that in order to choose a better life partner, it is better to stay away from this path and start choosing with hormonal balance? in my religious teachings, premarital relationship and self-gratification are highly condemned, but what can be done.
     
  8. Kn0wbie

    Kn0wbie Fapstronaut

    Honestly buddy - I obviously got together / married long before my 74 day PMO streak... So i guess i was not blinded by hormones then!!

    My own view recently formed from my time here and reading / researching lots on SR, PMO and dopamine etc... Is this is our "natural" state. The world has fucked us up with its fast paced internet porn and added rocketfuel to our natural desire to be turned on and play with our cocks. Lets face it. -pretty much every guy has enjoyed playing with his cock since the dawn of time. Just now we're all doing it way too much! Maybe everything is OK in moderation but we've proved were incapable of moderating our behaviour which is why we're here! So for the moment - I think I need to treat myself like an alcoholic and say I no longer touch a drink. Or in this case I no longer touch my cock.

    So - if we're in our natural state, do I think we're at greater risk of picking the wrong girl? No. I dont. And this is why. You will be more "aware" of girls as your basic human instinct is to find a girl and procreate. But you also have a brain and you know this. Because you are more aware of them... and apparently them of you - I might argue you will have more choice of girls than you ever would have done before! So arguably you can pick the right one! If you're going PMO free until you find the girl then you want to get to sex as quickly as possible as youre so horny - then I think you're at risk and will fail!

    But - If you approach a new relationship with the same view and determination as you do NoFap, and I'd recommend you go read about Karezza etc which seems to have a strong base in ancient religious and spiritual texts... I think you can adopt the intimacy of a new relationship about closeness and love - not about fuck and thrust and orgasm (sorry for my crude language - but want to make the distinction between!)

    As such - Orgasm... or the male Orgasm and ejaculation are for making babies. They do not need to - and in loving relationships there are many arguments why you should avoid them! - exist outside of the purpose of procreating. See "Cupids Poisoned Arrow" by Marnia Robinson - A great read!!

    Sorry for such a deep and long winded answer... but hope it helps!!

    The executive summary - No!! Dont quit PMO free lifestyle to get the girl!
     
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  9. TideHunter

    TideHunter Fapstronaut

    Was really inspiring
    I read it three times and learned a new point every time
    Thanks for your guidance really needed it
     
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  10. Spiritual Immunity

    Spiritual Immunity Fapstronaut

    I laughed out loud reading this. Just being honest here, but I think that’s more of a you problem. I don’t fall in love easily, and in fact on SR I’m less likely to because my standards become so high. It does make you want to spend more time with women I’ll give you that, but falling in love with them is a whole different thing.
     
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